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Consciousness Lives in Our Our bodies
“The mind exists to maintain the physique alive, not the opposite method round,” argues the writer Michael Pollan as he explores the connection between consciousness and the physique on this episode of “The Ezra Klein Present.”
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I believe that’s my largest discovery. As somebody who lives in his head more often than not, how vital having a physique is to being aware. We actually consider the top — we determine with our heads greater than our our bodies. Perhaps as a result of our eyes are there. I don’t know, however consciousness in all probability arises with emotions first. It begins with issues like starvation and itchiness and solely later turns into, because it will get filtered into the cortex, turns into the sort of sophisticated pondering that we delight ourselves on. I believe that emotions are based mostly within the physique. Lastly, it’s how the physique talks to the mind. And we’ve got to recollect this quite simple truth, which is the mind exists to maintain the physique alive, not the opposite method round. We’re not only a assist system for this superb three kilos of tofu in our heads. There’s little doubt, I believe, that the expertise of consciousness is a few sort of interaction between each. I really feel uncertainty in my photo voltaic plexus. I take into consideration issues I’m unsure round in my mind. Precisely, and the place do you expertise disgust? Like ethical disgust. It’s in your stomach. You’ve an incredible experiment within the ebook about ginger. Individuals given ginger. – May you describe that? – Yeah, it is a very cool experiment. They gave folks ginger earlier than exposing them to some morally distasteful occasion or one thing. Or picture. And the individuals who had the ginger had been much less disgusted as a result of their stomachs had been settled. So our feeling of ethical disgust is sort of channeled via our intestine, which is such a bizarre concept. However that’s in all probability true of numerous emotions, and that it has monumental implications for this dialogue about A.I., whether or not it may be aware, as a result of emotions aren’t simply indicators, they’re not simply bits of knowledge. They comprise data. You’re getting numerous data from a sense, however that’s the residue of the sensation. There’s one thing extra somatic about it, and it’s very laborious to think about how computer systems might get to that. And emotions haven’t any weight for those who don’t have a vulnerability, for those who don’t have the power to undergo and maybe be mortal. In any other case a sense is simply extra data. And we all know emotions are much more than that to us.
By ‘The Ezra Klein Present’
March 31, 2026